Scarlett Johansson, Joaquin Phoenix
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According to Scarlett Johansson, Joaquin Phoenix had a difficult timerecording audio for their sex scenes in Spike Jonze’s 2013 film Her.
During Johansson’s appearance Monday on the 500th episode of Dax Shepard’s_Armchair Expert_ podcast, the Academy Award nominee, 37, said that her costarhad already filmed the entire movie before she replaced Samantha Morton in thevoice role and scenes needed to be re-recorded.
She said that recording sex scenes between the artificial intelligenceSamantha, who falls in love with Phoenix’s Theodore Twombly, was “one of themost challenging jobs that I’ve done,” and recording sessions with Jonze, 52,proved uncomfortable for Phoenix, 47 .
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Johansson noted: “You definitely don’t want to hear what you sound like havinga fake orgasm.”
“I remember we came in that day,” she said. “I’ve become that actor that’slike ‘let’s get dirty.’ I have to, because otherwise I’ll be petrified.Joaquin comes in, we try to get through one take and he was, like, losing it.He was like ‘I can’t do it.'”
Joaquin Phoenix Her – 2014
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“He was like angry… he had already [filmed the scene]he had done it in person,and now he was with me in this weird theater and I’m in this box, and he waslike staring at me, and the lights are low, and Spike is there… it was sobizarre, Johansson continued.
“I was fine. Joaquin was not – he was so upset about it,” she added. “He leftthe studio, and now I’m in this box by myself and I’m like, ‘I can’t do italone. I need him to come back.’ He needed a break; he took a break and hecame back in.”
Despite the difficult recording sessions, Johansson, Jonze and Phoenix’s hardwork paid off — Her made $48 million at the global box office against a $23million budget and received one Academy Award for Best Screenplay at the 86thOscars, along with four other nominations.
“I haven’t seen that movie in a long time but I bet if I watched it I would beso mortified,” Johansson said. “It’s tough.”
Johansson, Shepard and co-host Monica Padman also had a candid conversationabout Johansson’s early days as an actress during her _Armchair Expert_appearance.
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the Black Widow star admitted during the episode that she spent a lot oftime around adults as a child, which she attributed to her Manhattanupbringing and career and said that she “definitely was in differentsituations that were not age-appropriate.”
“Luckily my mom was really good about protecting me from a lot of that stuff,but she can’t do that for everything,” Johansson told the pair.
Johansson said that this perceived maturity went hand-in-hand with her being”hyper-sexualized” as a young actress, despite saying that sex was “never ahuge part of my actual personality.”
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“Because I think everybody thought I was older and I’d been [acting] for along time and then I got kind of pigeonholed into this weird hyper-sexualizedthing,” Johansson said. “It was like, that’s the kind of career you have.These are the roles you’ve played and I was like, ‘This is it, I guess.'”
Shepard and Johansson also acknowledged that this “hyper-sexualized”pigeonhole in Hollywood has an early expiration date for women.
“The runway is not long on that and so it was scary at that time,” the_Marriage Story_ actress recalled. “And I attributed a lot of that to the factthat people thought I was much, much older than I was.”